Wednesday, August 31, 2016

an Encyclical from His Eminence Archbishop Kallinikos

General Informational Sharing: Encyclical CONCERNING THE ECUMENIST GATHERING IN CRETE

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From: info@saintedwardbrotherhood.org
Subject: Encyclical CONCERNING THE ECUMENIST GATHERING IN CRETE
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2016 09:34:26 +0100
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Bless!  Posted today on the Oropos & Fili website, an Encyclical from His Eminence Archbishop Kallinikos and the Members of our Holy Synod (the Church of the Genuine Orthodox Christians of Greece) : -

correction to the Metropolitan's Ukaz

A General Sharing: An added correction to the Metropolitan's Ukaz, from Archbishop Andronik:

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From: Bishop Andronik (bishopandronik@gmail.com).                              
Sent: Wed 8/17/16 2:04 PM
To: Dan Everiss (oregdan@hotmail.com)



 
Dear Dan!
           I have spoken today with the Metropolitan. There was an error in his Ukaz
where it say's that the Parishes in Astoria and Valley Cottage have  to [both]  vote in a
General Parish Meeting, to decide  under whose Diocese they want to belong. During the course of
our conversation, we rectified that, so that  the Valley Cottage Parish [ St. Sergius Church] doesn't have to
have a meeting to vote to which Diocese they want to belong in, since they were
already previously in my Diocese, meaning in the Diocese of Archbishop Andronik
before the 19th July, 2016  Synod's  meeting. So I ask you kindly to make the necessary
corrections on your web site.
   +Archbishop Andronik     

ROCA: Original Documents

A General Informational Sharing: ROCA: Original Documents and their English translations of this Agreement:

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(Much thanks to the translator:)

 

Wednesday, August 17, 2016

Vl. Andronik's  Statement -human-English translation:


3/16 August 2016

Statement

In connection with the fact that Metropolitan Agafangel and his Synod are withdrawing the punishments imposed at the session of the Synod from 19 to 21 July 2016, I recognize the enactments and ukases of the Metropolitan and the Synod.

The dioceses to which the parishes in Astoria and Valley Cottage will belong will be chosen by a general parish meeting and this decision will be supported and confirmed by the Synod.

+Archbishop Andronik


       

Tuesday, August 16, 2016

ROCA: Metropolitan Agafangel's Ukase

 


Original Russian signed statement of this Ukaz:

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A human-English translation:


>
> President of the Hierarchal Synod of the ROCA
>
> Ukase
>
> In connection with Archbishop Andronik’s statement concerning his recognition of and his submission to the Ukases of the Hierarchal Synod and Council of the ROCA, I withdraw the Ukase of the Hierarchical  Synod concerning his retirement and  order  the restoration of   his status in the Canadian and Syracuse Dioceses,  as it was before  the meeting of the last Hierarchal Synod on 19-29 July, 2016. At general parish meetings, the parishes in Astoria and Valley Cottage will choose to which diocese they will belong, and these decisions will be supported and confirmed by the Synod.
>
> 3/16 August 2016
>
> + Metropolitan Agafangel
>
> +Archbishop George (I agree with the decision of the Metropolitan only for the sake of the peace and unity of the ROCA)

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Russian and a humanly smoothed-out machine English: of this internetsobor ARTICLE on this event:
ROCA: Step to overcome divisions
Автор: Митрополит Агафангел вкл. Author: Metropolitan Agafangel incl. . . Опубликовано в РПЦЗ (Просмотров: 2) Published in the ROCA (Views: 2)
Таги: рпцз , сша Tags: ROCA , USA

6-17 August, at the GOC-Greek monastery [of St. John Maximovitch] in New York, in the United States, there was hosted a meeting of representatives of the Synod of Bishops of ROCOR, Metropolitan Agafangel (Chairman), Archbishop George (Secretary) and Archbishop Andronicus, which meeting was brokered by Metropolitans Demetrios and Moses (of the GOC-Greece).  As a result of this meeting, due to the efforts of the President of the Synod, and the initiatives of Archbishop Andronicus, there has been annulled Vl. Andronik's previous statement that he refuses to recognize the decrees and resolutions of the Metropolitan Agafangel, the Council of Bishops and the Synod.  In turn, Metropolitan Agafangel withdrew the decree of the Synod against Archbishop Andronicus in retiring him.  The Syracuse and the Canadian Diocese, thus have been returned to the former status of before the July, 2016, ruling of the Synod.   Archbishop George agreed with the decision.  The meeting was also attended by Archpriest Nikita Grigoriev and subdeacon John Herbst.  Archbishop Sophronius, who participated in the meeting at the end of it, said he would think of taking a similar decision. 



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[Another]  translation of this article, on internetsobor:
 
Archbishop Sophrony’s remark was reported in the post on the Internet Sober website, which reads in English as follows:

On 16-17 August, a meeting took place at the GOC monastery in the USA between representatives of the Hierarchal Synod of the ROCA, Metropolitan Agafangel (President) and Archbishop George (Secretary), and Archbishop Andronik, through the mediation of Metropolitans Demetrius and Moses (GOC). As a result of this meeting, owing to the initiative of the President of the Synod, Archbishop Andronik annulled his statement that he refuses to recognize the Ukases and Enactments of Metropolitan Agafangel [and] of the Hierarchal Council and Synod. In his turn, Metropolitan Agafangel withdrew the Ukase of the Synod concerning the retirement of Archbishop Andronik. Thus, the Syracuse and Canadian Dioceses have returned to the status that was [in effect] before the July 2016 Synod. Archbishop George agreed with such a decision. At the meeting, Protopriest Nikita Gregoriev and Subdeacon John Herbst also took part.{ Archbishop Sophrony, who participated in the meeting at its end, said that he will think about taking an analogous decision.}


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All-Russian text of this article: (found also on:<http://internetsobor.org>

РПЦЗ: Шаг к преодолению раскола

Автор: Митрополит Агафангел вкл. . Опубликовано в РПЦЗ (Просмотров: 1)
Таги: рпцз , сша
16-17 августа, в монастыре ИПЦ Греции в США произошла встреча представителей Архиерейского Синода РПЦЗ Митрополита Агафангела (Председатель), Архиепископа Георгия (Секретарь) и Архиепископа Андроника при посредничестве Митрополитов Димитрия и Моисея (ИПЦ Греции). В результате этой встречи, вследствие инициативы Председателя Синода, Архиепископ Андроник аннулировал свое заявление о том, что он отказывается признавать Указы и Постановления Митрополита Агафангела, Архиерейского Собора и Синода. В свою очередь, Митрополит Агафангел отозвал Указ Синода о почислении Архиепископа Андроника на покой. Сиракузская и Канадская епархия, таким образом, вернулась к состоянию, бывшему до июльского Синода, 2016 года, положению. С таким решением согласился Архиепископ Георгий. Во встрече приняли  участие также протоиерей Никита Григорий и иподиакон Иоанн Хербст. Архиепископ Софроний, участвовавший во встрече в конце ее, сказал, что подумает над принятием аналогичного решения.

Friday, August 19, 2016

monk Nikander's ASTUTE comment on our new peace

And- WOW! mixed Russian/machine-'English' of monk Nikander's ASTUTE comment on our new peace, etc,. and about Andronik, etc.,

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Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:11 AM

I am amazed at how wise monk Ninkander is, eventhough he doesn't live here, but in far away Russia (or Ukraine?).
He truly seems to have a good understanding of Andronik, for one matter.

And I am sorry that I cannot get THIS semi- good, machine-English translation, SEPARATE from the Russian.

I used to have that super-useful whole-page translation link, but lost it, when I had to go thru several major program changes on my computer, and I cannot relocate it.
This Daniel


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  • Добавлен: Сегодня 08:58 Автор: иеромонах Никандр #5434 Added: Today, 08:58 Author: monk Nikandr # 5434
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    Если правда , то почему сразу не говорили об обмене приходами ? If it is true, then why not just talking about the exchange of the parishes?
    Смирился Андроник только потому что в присутствии двух греческих митрополитов не мог опровергнуть предоставленных архиеп. Lowly Andronicus only because in the presence of two Greek metropolitans could not refute provided Arch. Георгием неопровержимых документальных фактов - протоколов Синода РПЦЗ в которых зафиксированы две предыдущие попытки учинения Андроником расколов и его коленопреклонное покаяние перед Синодом РПЦЗ за свою деятельность. George irrefutable documentary evidence - ROCA protocols in which two previous attempts perpetrated Andronicus splits recorded and kneeling before the Synod of ROCOR repentance for their actions.

    В течение последних двух лет Андроник регулярно плакался митр. Over the past two years Andronicus regularly wept Metropolitan. Димитрию в жилеточку, что его, безобидного, беззлобного иерусалимского монаха, плохой Агафангел все время обижает, не дает ему управлять своей епархией и творит что хочет... Demetrius in zhiletochku that it harmless, good-natured Jerusalem monk, poor Agafangel always hurts, does not allow him to manage his diocese and does what he wants ...

    На проверку оказалось, что митр. On inspection it was found that Met. Восточно Американский Агафангел свежеиспеченному еп. Eastern American Agafangel Freshly Bishop. Андонику Ричмодхильскому (откуда Андроника за его безобразия с иером. Манько вышибли прихожане) отдал и Америку, и Канаду и Австралию, а за собой оставил лишь один приход - Сергия Радонежского в Спринг Валлей. Andoniku Richmodhilskomu (where Andronicus for his ugliness with Hieromonk Manko ousted parishioners.) And gave America and Canada and Australia, and for a left only one parish - St. Sergius of Radonezh in Spring Valley. Но и этот приход жадному монаху очень приглянулся и, опять же, согласно его же требования на Синоде, потребовал Агафангела обменять "свой" приход на 37 в Астории на приход в Спринг Валлей. But the arrival of the greedy monk really liked and, again, according to his requirements at the Synod demanded Agafangel swap "their" coming to 37 in Astoria to the parish in Spring Valley.

    У греков духание сперло и повернулись мозги когда им открылось, что Андроник на самом деле - необразованный тупой и ненасытный монах. The Greeks filched tavern and turned brains when they discovered that Andronicus actually - uneducated stupid and voracious monk. Они не могли поверить, что годом позже после инициированного Андроником обмена, своим указом он взял да и "вернул" себе приход на 37-ой. They could not believe that a year later, after an exchange initiated by Andronicus, by decree, he took and "back" his arrival on the 37th. Поняли греки, что "безобидный елеонский плакальщик" на самом деле - прожорливый, ненасытный, властолюбивый тип, разрушающий РПЦЗ, раскольник и нарушитель канонов, законно определеный Синодом РПЦЗ на покой. Greeks understood that the "harmless Eleonskii mourner" in fact - a voracious, insatiable, power-hungry type, destroying ROCA, schismatic and violator of the canons, the legal definition of the ROCOR Synod to rest.

    Греки очень были удивлены, когда узнали какой Андроник на самом деле огромный "ноль", что за все врмя архиерейства Андроник сам не привлек к РПЦЗ и не открыл ни одного нового прихода и весь его "рост и расширение" - это то что он последовательно получал от митрополита Агафангела. The Greeks were very surprised to find out how Andronicus really huge "zero", that for all vrmya a bishop Andronicus himself did not attract the ROCA and did not open any new arrival and all its "growth and expansion" - is that he consistently received from Metropolitan Agafangel.

    Андронику ничего не оставалось, как опять заявить о своей очередной ошибке и вернуться к каноническому подчинению Синоду РПЦЗ. Andronicus is nothing to do but to once again express its regular error and return to the canonical subordination of the ROCOR Synod.

    Софроний прибыл только на второй день собраний и греческих вразумлений не услышал. Sophronius came only on the second day of meetings and Greek admonition not heard. Да был бы Андроник только прожорливый монах. Yes, it would be only a gluttonous monk Andronicus. Он еще и пляшет под дудку разных наглых мирян, которые с какой-то стати вообразили себя стратегами в церковной деятельности, не зная ничего о церковных канонах и считая их устаревшими, и рассказывают всем, начиная от митрополита Агафангела и заканчивая мирянами, что надо делать и как себя вести. He also dances to the tune of various arrogant laymen who with kakoy-to Why strategists imagined themselves in church activities, not knowing anything about the church canons and considering them obsolete, and tell everything from the Metropolitan Agafangel and ending with the laity, what to do and how to behave. Мало того, Андроником вообще руководят бесноватые бабы, которые бьются в истерике от ненависти к митрополиту Агафангелу и возомнившие себя истинными зарубежницами, хотя приехали из далекого далека России. Moreover, all led by Andronicus possessed women who are fighting hysterical hatred of Metropolitan Agafangel and imagines himself zarubezhnitsami true, though come from far distant Russia.

    Очень сочувствую митрополиту Агафангелу, что ему приходится возиться с такими архиереями, которые не имеют ни знаний, ни ума, ни духовного устроения, чтобы быть столпами РПЦЗ и право править слово истины. Very sorry Metropolitan Agafangel that he had to tinker with such bishops, who have neither the knowledge nor the mind nor the spiritual dispensation to be pillars of the ROCOR and the right to rule the word of truth. Потому что Софроний точно не успокоится. Because Sophrony not exactly quiet. Каждое его поражение в его разрушительной деятельности в РПЦЗ приводит его в еще большее неистовство и личную ненависть к митрополиту Агафангелу. Each of his defeat in his destructive activities in the ROCA leads him to even greater fury and personal hatred of the Metropolitan Agafangel.

    Кто предал раз, может предать еще много раз, потому что преступив запретный порог предательства, человеку уже легко скатываться опять на тот же путь. Who betrayed times, can bring many more times because transgressing the forbidden threshold of betrayal, a person is already easy to slide back on the same path.

    Хорошо хоть греки поняли кто такой Андроник. Well at least the Greeks realized what a Andronicus. Очень хочется на это надеяться. I'd like to hope so.
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    Добавлен: Вчера 06:11 Автор: Священник Сергий Бегашов #5433 Added: Yesterday, 6:11 Author: Priest Sergei Begashov # 5433
    Priest Sergei Begashov avatar
    Слава Богу! Thank God! Это настоящее чудо! It's a miracle! Я уже и не ждал такого исхода. I was not expecting such an outcome. Милостивый Бог да вразумит вл. Gracious God is indeed repented. Софрония и да избавит от всякого прельщения! Sophronia and may save you from any delusion!
    Добавлен: Вчера 03:36 Автор: иеромонах Никандр #5432 Added: Yesterday, 3:36 Author: monk Nikandr # 5432
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    Сергей пишет: Sergey says:
    Или с кем-то посоветоваться надо? Or someone should be consulted?

    С Михал Иванычем . With Michael Ivanovich. То бишь , с МВН. I mean, with the MRI. Ведь вся "структура истинно - антинеосергианская и антиукроамериканская " рушится на глазах After all, the whole "structure is true - and antineosergianskaya antiukroamerikanskaya" crumbling before our eyes :)
    Добавлен: Вчера 03:34 Автор: иеромонах Никандр #5431 Added: Yesterday, 3:34 Author: monk Nikandr # 5431
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    Сергей пишет: Sergey says:
    Удивляет владыка Софроний. Surprising Bishop Sophronius. Что тут думать? What is there to think? Или с кем-то посоветоваться надо? Or someone should be consulted?

    Это типа "я тут самый важный и красивый и вам меня так просто не уговорить" It's like "I've been the most important and beautiful and you me not so easy to persuade" :)
    Добавлен: Вчера 03:32 Автор: Сергей #5430 Added: Yesterday, 3:32 Author: Sergey # 5430
    Sergey avatar
    Удивляет владыка Софроний. Surprising Bishop Sophronius. Что тут думать? What is there to think? Или с кем-то посоветоваться надо? Or someone should be consulted?

    Wednesday, August 17, 2016

    Vl. Andronik Statement


    3/16 August 2016

    Statement

    In connection with the fact that Metropolitan Agafangel and his Synod are withdrawing the punishments imposed at the session of the Synod from 19 to 21 July 2016, I recognize the enactments and ukases of the Metropolitan and the Synod.

    The dioceses to which the parishes in Astoria and Valley Cottage will belong will be chosen by a general parish meeting and this decision will be supported and confirmed by the Synod.

    +Archbishop Andronik


    Tuesday, August 16, 2016

    ROCA: Metropolitan Agafangel's Ukase

    IMPORTANT!: General Informational Sharing: ROCA: Metropolitan Agafangel's Ukase

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    > President of the Hierarchal Synod of the ROCA
    >
    > Ukase
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    > In connection with Archbishop Andronik’s statement concerning his recognition of and his submission to the Ukases of the Hierarchal Synod and Council of the ROCA, I withdraw the Ukase of the Hierarchical  Synod concerning his retirement and  order  the restoration of   his status in the Canadian and Syracuse Dioceses,  as it was before  the meeting of the last Hierarchal Synod on 19-29 July, 2016. At general parish meetings, the parishes in Astoria and Valley Cottage will choose to which diocese they will belong, and these decisions will be supported and confirmed by the Synod.
    >
    > 3/16 August 2016
    >
    > + Metropolitan Agafangel
    >
    > +Archbishop George (I agree with the decision of the Metropolitan only for the sake of the peace and unity of the ROCA)

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    http://internetsobor.org/rptsz/tserkovnye-novosti/rptsz/rptsz-shag-k-preodoleniyu-raskola
    Russian and a humanly smoothed-out machine English:
    ROCA: Step to overcome divisions
    Автор: Митрополит Агафангел вкл. Author: Metropolitan Agafangel incl. . . Опубликовано в РПЦЗ (Просмотров: 2) Published in the ROCA (Views: 2)
    Таги: рпцз , сша Tags: ROCA , USA

    6-17 August, at the GOC-Greek monastery [of St. John Maximovitch] in New York, in the United States, there was hosted a meeting of representatives of the Synod of Bishops of ROCOR, Metropolitan Agafangel (Chairman), Archbishop George (Secretary) and Archbishop Andronicus, which meeting was brokered by Metropolitans Demetrios and Moses (of the GOC-Greece).  As a result of this meeting, due to the efforts of the President of the Synod, and the initiatives of Archbishop Andronicus, there has been annulled Vl. Andronik's previous statement that he refuses to recognize the decrees and resolutions of the Metropolitan Agafangel, the Council of Bishops and the Synod.  In turn, Metropolitan Agafangel withdrew the decree of the Synod against Archbishop Andronicus in retiring him.  The Syracuse and the Canadian Diocese, thus have been returned to the former status of before the July, 2016, ruling of the Synod.   Archbishop George agreed with the decision.  The meeting was also attended by Archpriest Nikita Grigoriev and subdeacon John Herbst.  Archbishop Sophronius, who participated in the meeting at the end of it, said he would think of taking a similar decision. 



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    [Another]  translation of this article, on internetsobor:
     
    Archbishop Sophrony’s remark was reported in the post on the Internet Sober website, which reads in English as follows:

    On 16-17 August, a meeting took place at the GOC monastery in the USA between representatives of the Hierarchal Synod of the ROCA, Metropolitan Agafangel (President) and Archbishop George (Secretary), and Archbishop Andronik, through the mediation of Metropolitans Demetrius and Moses (GOC). As a result of this meeting, owing to the initiative of the President of the Synod, Archbishop Andronik annulled his statement that he refuses to recognize the Ukases and Enactments of Metropolitan Agafangel [and] of the Hierarchal Council and Synod. In his turn, Metropolitan Agafangel withdrew the Ukase of the Synod concerning the retirement of Archbishop Andronik. Thus, the Syracuse and Canadian Dioceses have returned to the status that was [in effect] before the July 2016 Synod. Archbishop George agreed with such a decision. At the meeting, Protopriest Nikita Gregoriev and Subdeacon John Herbst also took part. Archbishop Sophrony, who participated in the meeting at its end, said that he will think about taking an analogous decision.


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    All-Russian text of this article: (found also on:<http://internetsobor.org>

    РПЦЗ: Шаг к преодолению раскола

    Автор: Митрополит Агафангел вкл. . Опубликовано в РПЦЗ (Просмотров: 1)
    Таги: рпцз , сша

    16-17 августа, в монастыре ИПЦ Греции в США произошла встреча представителей Архиерейского Синода РПЦЗ Митрополита Агафангела (Председатель), Архиепископа Георгия (Секретарь) и Архиепископа Андроника при посредничестве Митрополитов Димитрия и Моисея (ИПЦ Греции). В результате этой встречи, вследствие инициативы Председателя Синода, Архиепископ Андроник аннулировал свое заявление о том, что он отказывается признавать Указы и Постановления Митрополита Агафангела, Архиерейского Собора и Синода. В свою очередь, Митрополит Агафангел отозвал Указ Синода о почислении Архиепископа Андроника на покой. Сиракузская и Канадская епархия, таким образом, вернулась к состоянию, бывшему до июльского Синода, 2016 года, положению. С таким решением согласился Архиепископ Георгий. Во встрече приняли  участие также протоиерей Никита Григорий и иподиакон Иоанн Хербст. Архиепископ Софроний, участвовавший во встрече в конце ее, сказал, что подумает над принятием аналогичного решения.