Dan Everiss
<oregdan@hotmail.com> | Tue, May 23, 2017 at 6:59 PM |
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My added comment to this:
But no mention here, that the consecration to the episcopate
of the pre-2007 union, ROCOR - of Trenton, New Jersey, U.S.A. validly ordained to the
priesthood , of Arch-Priest Stefan Sabelnik, was not likely
canonical or valid ( because, in brief, those putting their hands on
his head in RTOC's Odessa cathedral, even if they recited the proper prayers and blessings,...they performed all of
the liturgical rituals, etc.... BUT who were not themselves canonical valid bishops!) e.g. those in schism from their lawful synods,
as have been the predecessors of Tikhon Pasechnik and himself, and those whom he has ordained or consecrated,
who perform any sacraments, those ritual acts are invalid and graceless- THAT is the problem!
And this information was revealed
years ago, by Vl. Agafangel- who personally & closely and directly
knew all of those involved-THUS,
Stefan Sabelnik [whether we personally 'like' him or not] is
simply not a valid or canonically consecrated Orthodox bishop, and now
Andronik Kotliaroff -because he is in unlawful rebellion and in schism,
is NO LONGER a valid or canonical bishop....though
in his case, when he was consecrated a ROCA bishop, that WAS
canonical,-he WAS canonical. Formerly, Vl. Andronik WAS a validly
consecrated bishop! But, he has lost that now. Stefan Sabelnik, never
had a valid episcopal consecration....no matter how many other
likeable attributes to his personality he has. Many love and adore him,
and would follow him anywhere.
Andronik also, has been and still is much loved and trusted by many. Hence, many are
emotionally and blindly following him...following both Andronik and Stefan....but TO WHERE???
In the 2007 shameful betrayal plot of much of the anti-MP old free ROCOR,
including those who themselves
and their families and parishes were physically threatened, to be
'thrown out into the street' - or worse, ...if they did not go along
with the glorious 'reunion' with the MP, etc.
or who were bribed and paid off, or whose secret sins were known &
recorded by the KGB who threatened them, to be make them public,
-'compromat', and those bribed, by KGB agents, PLUS
many of the parish clergy and laity then too, simply trusted
their fellow parish priests and more so their ROCOR bishops, [ all of
whom, EXCEPT Vl. Agafangel and imprisoned sickly un-free Vl. Daniel,
who did not betray] and they went with them,
like sheep to the slaughter, in their mass betrayal to the KGB/FSB
-founded and ruled MP.
So coercion played a big
part in forcing submission of the ROCOR bishops and priests and
parishes, under the KGB run MP in 2007.
AND too,.... foolishly & blindly
believing that by them doing such, listening to the slogans: "It
is time now- to re-unite", and "because Russia is free now!", was being
'OBEDIENT' to their father confessors, their higher clergy...and thus,
to God (!)
So too, are those now
blindly obedient to this double-'fragment'-schism, now a double/joined
new fresh schism. Which is a joy to all those who support the MP and
dictator Putin's plans to take over the world....which
will trigger World War III, an end of human civilization on this earth,
nuclear world war.
No Orthodox bishop or priest, can break Sobornost/Conciliatoriness -MUTUAL OBEDIENCE, with his fellow bishops,...UNLESS THEY HAVE APOSTATED AND ABANDONED THE ORTHODOX FAITH!,...
as DID!...those of ROCOR who betrayed to the MP in 2007, and the 'OCA' previously, in 1970, &
foment church and soul destroying riotousness rebellion against his
fellow bishops, and then flee into schism or heresy and leave the
church, and ....simply....arrogantly
TAKE his ordination or consecration & his former grand clerical
titles and prerogatives, IN HIS POCKET, with him!...as if they were
his personal baggage or possession. AS IF.... anyone can capture and
privately own..... the Grace of the Holy Spirit! Perhaps
that works in Roman Catholic Jesuitical theology and their corrupted
& politically oriented church law, but not in Orthodoxy.
Further, it was long ago
proven many times over, that departed, of Thrice Blessed Memory, SIR
Met. Cyprian,[Koutsumbas] was never a 'heretic' nor did he ever preach any 'heresy'. But
it brings
a smile to my face, to see that those NOW unifying their two
ill-conceived & lamebrain schisms, must rehash this old baloney.
An old saying: "Two wrongs don't make a right!"
Truly we are now in the End Times!
When Christ returns, will he find any faith left?
Russian version:
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Russian Orthodox Church Abroad Dioceses of Syracuse-St. Nicholas and Ottawa-Canada
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English version:
An Explanation concerning the Negotiations on Eucharistic Communion between Bp. Stefan and Archbp. Andronik
On April 4, 2017, a meeting took place between Bishop Stefan
[Sabelnik] and Archbishop Andronik [Kotliaroff] and some of their
subordinate priests, which ended with the signing of a document on the
restoration of Eucharistic Communion. In the process of
negotiations some of the clergy of Vl. Stefan raised the question of the
canonicity of the episcopal consecration of Vl. Andronik (2007), done
with the participation of the Bp. Ambrose, who belonged to the Synod of
Resistance (the Cyprianite Synod).
On this question Vl. Andronik made the following explanation, which satisfied the party of Vl. Stefan:
The party of Vl. Andronik does not consider his consecration as
non-canonical. But for those of the clergy Vl. Stefan, who doubt the
canonicity of a consecration in which the Synod of Resistance
participated we recall that this issue was already resolved
when the Synod of Met. Cyprian was accepted into the Synod of the True
Orthodox Church of Greece. Over the bishops of the Synod of Met. Cyprian
cheirothésia [laying on of hands] was performed. At the same time, all
the sacred actions and ordinations that they
committed before unification were recognized. It should be said that
this is the usual church practice when reuniting after a split
(otherwise it would be necessary to re-baptize, re-marry, re-bury, etc.)
The official document on the unification of the synods of Arch. Kallinikos and Metr. Cyprian stated:
“The Holy Synod accepted the document and proceeded to the lifting of
the penalties imposed by the then Hierarchies of the Synod in
Resistance, recognizing their Consecrations and Mysteriological acts and
those of their successors who heretofore remained
in communion with them.”
http://www.hsir.org/pdfs/2014/03/28/E20140328aXronikoEnoseos%20Folder/E20140328aXronikoEnoseos.pdf
One can add that when the two Greek synods were united, the Synod of
Bishops of Resistance declared that the special ecclesiology of Metr.
Cyprian (Kutsumbas) has never been the official teaching of their synod,
remaining his private opinion. (“The Hierarchs
of the former Synod in Resistance not only did not officially and
synodally proclaim all that was ascribed to them under the name of
“Cyprianism”... but have also clearly expressed opposition thereto...”)
http://hsir.org/pdfs/2014/10/01/E20141001aSynodikesTheseis-Antidrontes%20Folder/E20141001aSynodikesTheseis-Antidrontes.pdf
At present, no one spreads the teachings of Metr. Cyprian, so if it
were not for the opponents of the “heresy of Cyprianism”, no one would
have known about the existence of this doctrine.
The ROCA has historically always maintained a moderate position in
relation to the churches of World Orthodoxy, but such a moderate
position is not connected with and does not coincide with the
ecclesiological theories of Met. Cyprian. Despite the fact that
the ROCA entered into contact with the Synod of Resistance in 1994, the
ecclesiology Met. Cyprian was not published in the church press of the
ROCA, and did not become known to a wide circle of clergy and the
faithful.
Editorial Staff
About us
Despite protests from within the ranks of bishops, clergy, and
laypeople, on May 17, 2007, a large part of the ROCA entered into
Eucharistic communion with the MP with the signing of the “Act of
Canonical Communion” and is now known as the Russian Orthodox
Church Outside of Russia (MP). A smaller part chose to remain loyal to
the historical Russian Orthodox Church and continue the mission of the
ROCA.
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