Dan Everiss
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Comments: Regarding: The big blasphemous and anti-scriptural &
centuries old lie, i.e. that
which the fallen-away-former-church of Rome, the Papists, The Latin's
Great 1054 AD Schism, have foisted on the world:
Behold,
all you present day, 'progressive-liberal' Orthodox-Ecumenists! This
is the stark sour reality, the natural bad and inedible
FRUIT, of your foolishly trusting the non-Orthodox, especially the long
term enemy of the Orthodox, the heretic fallen away church of Rome, in
your imagined sweet-fantasies of 'Christian Unity', and 'that all may
become one'.
Yes,
for sure, the Pope's church wants that 'all become one', but not as
equals, and not in the pure apostolic Orthodox faith, but
rather that all must submit, bow under their pope's feet and tyrannical
rule. And their main centuries old, scriptural (mis-quote) which they
claim supports their cooked-up, 'supremacy of Peter' is largely
miss-based on Christ's words, in the one of the four
Gospels, where Christ seemed to be speaking to the Apostle.... Peter-
('Petras', which means, 'rock'), "Thou art Peter/the rock, ...and upon
this.... rock, I build my church".
However, some central facts of Church History and Patristics are conveniently ignored by Rome. We Orthodox cannot forget them.
Central
is that: In interpreting all scriptures, & as regarding all
doctrines, [each and every Orthodox bishop, 'rightly divides/teaches
the word of truth'], what matters, is 'The Mind.... of The
Universal/Catholic Church', - also labeled, Sacred Tradition, and that
universal/catholic interpretation [called: The Father's/Patristics-their
interpretations and explanations] of this passage
said:
That
Christ.... was, meaning in that and His other biblical passages and
....at...Pentecost-[through the working of the Holy Spirit,
which act was the Foundation Day of the Church] ....was the
empowering/consecrating of ALL HIS APOSTLES, who were all EQUAL in
their apostolic authority,
each sent into differing territories to preach the Good News and to establish local churches there, not only the Apostle Peter, or even at solely his
commands, [Apostle Peter nicknamed, 'The Apostle to the Jews'] plus 'the rock' which Christ meant, was:
the solid faith/ the
rock/firmness.... of Peter's.....CONFESSION OF HIS FAITH.... IN
CHRIST!, WHO ALONE FOUNDED HIS CHURCH UPON
HIMSELF! ...as Jesus Christ is.... THE ROCK, ...and not upon any one mere flawed mortal man, as Peter.
The
Apostle Peter, as with all of the Apostles, mere mortals, were NOTHING
outside of Christ. HE gave them their powers and authority.
Christ was their rock and their foundation.
JESUS CHRIST, the GOD-MAN, IS OUR SOLE
SAVIOUR and REDEMMER!-our rock.
Jesus Christ founded His church upon..... Peter's faith in HIMSELF, ...as Christ is THE ROCK OF SALVATION,
not....... 'on Peter'!
Apostle
Peter, together with Apostle Paul- nicknamed 'The Apostle to the
Gentiles', were BOTH, 'the honorary chairmen' of the apostles,
but that was only honorary, and their opinions were not the supreme rule
or the final word over the other apostles, who were all EQUAL.
Church
history, though there are some arguments and debates on that specific
historical matter, generally believes..... that both Peter
and Paul preached at Rome, and died there.
Thus,
it MAY be said, that: the Apostles Peter and Paul, (BOTH of them,
EQUALLY! ) 'founded the local Church of Rome'....by their preaching
and by their shed blood there.
And
too, in the chaotic earlier centuries of the world-wide Church, there
were many many local controversies of all sorts, doctrinal
and church governance, etc. which at times, whoever was the then
diocesan ruling bishop of the old Roman Imperial city of Rome,and this highly honored in respect as he was in the old Roman Imperial Capital of the Roman Empire,
would be asked to give his final thought, his peace-making and deciding
opinion, [which was never seen as his command, or as of him
dictating to inferior local other churches or their patriarchs, -which
opinion was often accepted by those other local churches, to settle
various local inter-church disputes,...though not always.
That
was SOBORNOST/CONCILIARITY in action....mutual humble respect and
love..... in the Holy Faith: "Let him who would be chief of all,
the servant of all" -which applies to all bishop, and indeed to the
entire body of believers, -The Laos, the People of God, in the church.
Only
in the late 800 AD, onward did there slowly and quietly begin in the
shadows, the gradual process of attempting to re-create the
Roman's bishop's will, and his authority, the supreme rule over all the
church, and this was always resisted, by all the churches &
patriarchates, and especially by successive bishops of Rome themselves,
who were mostly conservatively Orthodox in their faith.
Before the Latin Great Schism of 1054, Rome produced a number of
Pope-SAINTS, which we Orthodox even today, venerate as our saints. None
of them taught, the later nonsense of Papal Supremacy of the Pope of
Rome, etc...or that Christ founded His church upon...the
apostle Peter!
But
even as the eastern part of the Christian Roman Empire-Byzantium in the
East, was prospering, Old-Rome & the Christian West, was
in steady decline & disintegration and more and more attacked and
invaded by barbarian hordes.
That
chaotic decline of imperial public law and order, caused a natural
historical reaction in the bishop of Rome's powers-[who became
THE SOLE RECOGNIZED CENTER OF POWER IN THE WEST, -as the rule of the
Emperor vanished into the air], the Pope/Holy Father of Rome, was
impelled/pushed to assume the new strange role of
THE Pontifix Maximus, & the only source of unity and law and order-religious or civil or military.... in the West.
The
Bishop of Rome, in reality, became a one person replacement for the
Church Authority... Combined with..... the Imperial powers.
Thus
there began to be created various false documents [such as the
infamous, 'False Decretals of Peter' and others, and ever growing
expanding outrageous claims, that since: Peter...in himself, was the
foundation rock of Christ's Church, and since Peter founded the Roman
bishop's throne/cathedra , THEREFOR.....whoever was 'the episcopal
successor of Apostle Peter'.....had UNIVERSAL and
SOLE 'VICARSHIP'-ABSOLUTE CONTROL over the entire world-wide church,
the Pope of Rome was Christ's Sole 'Vicar' (divinely ordained
representative)...... over all, etc.
This big papist lie, was held to and professed by schismatic Rome,
& which they tried to foist upon the whole universal church for
centuries, [ see the post-schism, Council of Florence, as but one later
example], for a very long time, but it was not promulgated into official Latin-Schism doctrine, till later. And
even then, many in the west also rejected it.
NONE
of the other local churches, before 1054 AD and indeed not even the
previous centuries of popes/bishops
of Rome...not one of them! ..., EVER accepted this new bizarre heresy
and concocted innovation, and we Orthodox have NEVER accepted that big
Papist lie....or of their blasphemous TWISTING and corrupting of the
fundamental meaning of Christ's words in His
Holy Gospel.
To subvert Holy Scripture is a terrible sin, which the Latins ['the first protestants'] have done
so easily, and which the Protestants also are very guilty of.
In our Orthodox understanding, ......which is exactly the same as was accepted in the universal
and early church, all bishops, [episcopos, overseers, consecrated successors of the Apostles] whether diocesan or regional or national,
and whatever their grand titles,.... are fundamentally equal in their apostolic spiritual powers and authority. All are called, with the term of respect: 'papas', in Greek,.... father.
And
yet, that big Papist biblical and theological lie has been utilized by
Rome for centuries to
keep the loyalty and abject obedience of their Latin-Rite Catholics
under their tyrannical rule, and also to fool the many formerly
born-Orthodox, ....the various poor confused & mislead and
betrayed, 'Uniates', of various nations & races, and far flung
lands, to obey Rome.
And
in all of Rome's current & massive power centered ecumenist
dealings: with we Orthodox, its
Uniates, the Protestants and all, their only real bottom-line end goal,
is THE SUBMISSION OF ALL to their phony, 'Christ's Sole Vicar on Earth,
the Pope of Rome'.
And my apologies, that this short statement cannot fully touch on all of the many historical and
patristic elements in this complicated historical and doctrinal matter.
"O Lord, save us from the pope of Rome, and from things that go bump in the night!"
Rd. Daniel in the thicket
First article:
The Pope consulted the "Eastern Patriarchs" - Uniates
Автор: Интернет Собор вкл. Author: Internet Sobor
incl. 19 Октябрь 2017 19 October 2017
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Папа – Патриархам и Верховным архиепископам: коллегиальность неразрывно связана с первенством Петра
The Pope to the
(Uniate) Patriarchs and the Supreme Archbishops: collegiality is inextricably linked with the primacy of Peter
Во всех поместных Церквах должны быть достойные епископы:
это служение настолько важно, что избрание кандидатов следует осуществлять в сотрудничестве с поместными Синодами.
In
all the local (Uniate) churches
there must be worthy bishops: this ministry is so important that the
election of candidates should be carried out in cooperation with the
local Synods.
Папа обратился с таким увещанием к Патриархам и Верховным
архиепископам, собравшимся в эти дни в Риме на пленарную ассамблею Конгрегации Восточных Церквей.
The pope addressed with such an admonition to the Patriarchs and the Supreme
[Uniate] Archbishops gathered in Rome in those days to the plenary assembly of the Congregation of 'Eastern Churches'.
Встреча
проходит по случаю столетия основания этого департамента, а также столетия Папского Восточного института.
The
meeting is held on the occasion of the centenary of the founding of
this department, as well as the centenary of the Pontifical
Eastern [Uniate] Institute.
Святейший Отец пожелал предстоятелям поместных Церквей
восточного обряда «разделять радости и печали» верующих.
The Holy Father wished the priests of the local Churches of the Eastern Rite "to share the joys and sorrows" of believers.
Забота
о Церквах проявляется также в единстве иерархов
с Папой: именно епископское служение в Риме, подчеркнул Папа, является
«основанием для Петрова служения, председательствующего служения любви и
в любви», сказал Св. Отец и призвал иерархов высоко ценить узы, которые
связывают «коллегиальность с первенством
святого Петра», чтобы осуществлять «диаконское первенство», то есть быть
рабом рабов Божиих.
Care
for the churches is also manifested in the unity of the hierarchs with
the pope: it is the episcopal ministry in Rome, the
Pope emphasized, that "is the foundation for Peter's ministry, the
presiding ministry of love and love," said St. Father and urged
hierarchs to appreciate the ties that bind "collegiality with the
primacy of St. Peter "to carry out the" deacon's primacy ",
that is, to be a slave to the servants of God.
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Second article: -This
steady on-going march of Rome's to take over the entire Ukraine, and to
steal all Orthodox churches and people: And does the Kremlin slave, the
Stalin founded uncanonical and apostate
'Moscow Patriarchate' try to stop this?- they who are always quick to
try to please the Pope and his Papist-ecumenism, and all at the orders
of their true bosses, the KGB run Putin's Kremlin, for its world
domination schemes....?
In Ukraine papists began to capture the temples of the UOC-MP ("The Ukranian Orthodox Church-Moscow Patriarchate")-
Автор: Интернет Собор вкл. Author:
Internet Sobor incl.
18 Октябрь 2017 18 October 2017
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Ранее суд установил законность использования храма
общиной УПЦ
Earlier, the court established the legality of the use of the church by the community of the UOC
В Украинской православной церкви (Московского патриархата)
заявляют о захвате Благовещенского храма в Коломые представителями Украинской греко-католической церкви.
In
the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate).they declare the
capture of the Annunciation Cathedral in Kolomyia by representatives
of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church.
Сообщение об этом
опубликовано синодальным информационно-просветительским отделом УПЦ.
A
report on this was
published by the Synodal Information and Educational Department of the UOC.
В сообщении говорится, что 17 октября 2017 года представители
УГКЦ срезали замки в Свято-Благовещенском храме в Коломые, и на следующий день там прошла служба греко-католической церкви.
The report says that on October 17, 2017, representatives of the UGCC cut locks on the Holy Annunciation Church in Kolomyia, and
the next day there was held there a service of the Greek Catholic Church.
При
этом ранее Ивано-Франковский окружной административный
суд установил факт законности пользования религиозной общины УПЦ
Благовещенским храмом, а действия сотрудников правоохранительных
органов, опломбировавших здание, незаконными.
At
the same time, previously the Ivano-Frankivsk District Administrative
Court established the fact of the legality of the use
of the religious community of the UOC by the Annunciation Church, and
the actions of law enforcement officers who sealed the building were
illegal.
В
связи с этим в УПЦ действия представителей УГКЦ называют незаконными и обвиняют захватчиков в пренебрежении законом.
In
this regard, in the UOC, the actions of representatives of the UGCC are
called illegal and accuse the invaders of neglecting the law.
В УПЦ напоминают, что попытка захвата храма общиной УГКЦ
предпринималась и ранее, а именно 4 июня, после этого здание опломбировали.
The UOC recall that the attempt to capture the temple by the UGCC community was made earlier, namely on June 4, after that the
building was sealed.
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