Con-Celebrations

"Smiles on every face!"

FW: SHARING: Glowing/Happy MP & ROCOR/MP & OCA-hierarchs, (i.e., including, 'resigned'?, Met. Jonah)

WEST COAST AMERICA NEWS: 

Category: What our former old-ROCOR, now in slavishly in union with the MP, bishops, priests, and brothers and sisters are up to:

These accounts, dealing with Fort Ross celebrations and the SF diocese of ROCOR/MP.

One can be also assured, that at all of these 'Russian' celebrations, as is always the case in San Francisco activities of the 'Russian Colony' there, that representatives of the Putin-Russian Federation Government, were in attendance...no doubt, 'praying and crossing themselves and lighting candles'.

Afterall, in their twisted KGB/FSB mind, all "Russians" in the entire world, BELONG body & soul, to the Putin regime and it's MP-'church'!

Comments: 

Below here, is the ecstatic report from an OCA priest, of the recent 200 Year Founding Celebration at Ft. Ross, California, by a collage of ROCOR/MP hierarchs, OCA-'resigned' Met. Jonah, and a collection of visiting/'guest'  MP hierarchs and other clergy ... all one big happy family!,  

ALL LOVE AND LIGHT! (???)

... and all of them there, subservient to the KGB run, pseudo-'Russian Church' named 'The Moscow Patriarchia' founded in 1943 by Comrade Uncle Joseph Stalin!

See: 

1) photo of Met. Hilarion-Kapral next to OCA Met. Jonah, as the two chief & main celebrants, in the San Francisco ROCOR/MP Cathedral, for Dormition: ....which church was built by St. John Maximovitch, and their 'celebrations' in the presence of his relics!

http://i.imgur.com/7DsbR.jpg  (other MP hierarchs are also in the church, or serving at other ROCOR/MP altars in the SF area).

2) "Feast of the Dormition @ SF (ROCOR/MP) Cathedral of Holy Virgin Mary"

 http://www.wadiocese.com/        read- the entire descriptions......on Archb. Kyrill'-Dmitrieff's diocesan web..  And, one can choose either the Russian version or the English version-as this is a VERY slick web site.

3) From: "Archpriest Basil Rhodes"

      To: yahoogroup

      Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:55:03 AM

      Subject: Re: Ft Ross

Fort Ross was a wonderful, and inspiring love feast.

I also served Dormition Vigil last evening at the Cathedral "Mother of God, Joy of All Who Sorrow"

(ROCOR) with Metropolitans Jonah and Hilarion, Archbishops Benjamin, Kyrill, Justinian,

& Bishop Feodosiy. Two OCA deacons served, along with ROCOR deacons. All of

our clergy served together. There were smiles and genuine friendliness everywhere.

If the goal of the divine services is to be united with and in Christ...there it was!

ABR

On Aug 28, 2012, at 9:09 AM, John Beal wrote:

*.... For more than a century America had no other Orthodox Church save the

Russian Orthodox, or as it was then known, the Russian Greek-Catholic

Church.

Great missionaries of the Russian land, such as St. Innocent (Veniaminov)

and St. Tikhon, the future Patriarch of All Russia, strove here for a

unified national church. And in this missionary work, they were motivated

by one desire alone: to bring the light of Christian faith to as many

people as possible, regardless of ethnicity or mother tongue. Today the

Orthodox Church in America, though divided into multiple jurisdictions,

keeps the heritage of Russian missionaries and remembers them as pillars

and founders of Orthodoxy in this land.

*Interesting words by Metropolitan Hilarion (Alfeyev) at Fort Ross.

Interesting because good, but also because 'Orthodox Church in America' is used ambiguously.  It could mean the autocephalous Orthodox Church in America - but in church life the word autocephalous has often been used in such statements, especially by the Russian Church - or it could mean simply the generality of the Orthodox Church in America, that is the sum of all Orthodox in America, which would be perhaps the correct reading in light of the subsequent use of the term 'jurisdictions' and the statement earlier in the paragraph that *over a million people profess the Orthodox faith* in America.

The significance of this celebration, and related local celebrations over

the weekend, and the phrasing of this statement may bear some deep thinking.

Indeed, I was already thinking, ruminating, worrying about what the

subtle language of liturgy would convey at Ft Ross' anniversary.

Worrying about how the status of the OCA was be presented there in an

overwhelmingly Russian cultural setting. Metr. Hilarion Alfeyev's

intentional problematizaton of the phrase "Orthodox Church in America"

by the representative of the Autocephaly that once fostered the OCA's

says a lot. To me, it says that we can forget about the MP 'having the

OCA's back' and that North America is open territory for jurisdictional jockeying, the OCA enjoying no place of privilege in the face of the Chambesy mandate and the reality of a fractured Orthodox jurisdictional administration, under increased immigration and resultant re-ethnification of church life.

The Metr. lays it out simply: Russia maintains the honor of historical

pre-eminence here by virtue of actual sole diocesan organization;

Orthodox Church in America is not a 'brand name' of our autocephalous

church but a general term semantically on par with "Orthodoxy in.. and

"Orthodox churches in..." The OCA as such, from this speech, enjoys no

special distinction as far as Moscow is concerned, no mandate to serve

the faithful of all nations here.

I would like to hear from people who went to Ft Ross about their impressions.

Fr John

Obama is not black...

FW: General Sharing: "Obama is not black...",,, and, he NEVER tells the truth about anything!-here is further proof

Category: The American political scene: Our disgraceful and incompetent current Liar-President:

PLEASE SHARE these gems of truth, so that everyone finally wakes up about this pathetic man!

If he wins another 4 years, America is finished.

TERRY ANDERSON, A BLACK LOS ANGELES TALK RADIO HOST, WENT

DOWN A LIST OF THINGS SENATOR OBAMA HAS SAID THAT AREN'T EXACTLY CORRECT.

1.) Selma March, Got Me Born - NOT EXACTLY, your parents felt safe enough to have you in 1961 - Selma had no effect on your birth, as Selma was in 1965.

(Google 'Obama Selma ' for his full March 4, 2007 speech and articles about its various untruths.) ! ! 

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/saywhat.asp

http://blogs.suntimes.com/sweet/2007/03/obamas_selma_speech_text_as_de.html

2.) Father Was A Goat Herder - NOT EXACTLY, he was a privileged, well educated youth, who went on to work with the Kenyan Government. 

3.) Father Was A Proud Freedom Fighter - NOT EXACTLY, he was part of one of the most corrupt and violent governments Kenya has ever had. 

4.) My Family Has Strong Ties To African Freedom - NOT EXACTLY; your cousin Raila Odinga has created mass violence in attempting to overturn a legitimate election in 2007, in Kenya . It is the first widespread violence in decades. The current government is pro-American but Odinga wants to overthrow it and establish Muslim Sharia law. Your half-brother, Abongo Obama, is Odinga's follower. You interrupted your New Hampshire campaigning to speak to Odinga on the phone. Check out the following link for verification of that....and for more. 

Obama's cousin Odinga in Kenya ran for president and tried to get Sharia Muslim law in place there. When Odinga lost the elections, his followers have burned Christians' homes and then burned men, women and children alive in a Christian church where they took shelter... Obama SUPPORTED his cousin before the election process here started. Google Obama and Odinga and see what you get. No one wants to know the truth. 

5.) My Grandmother Has Always Been A Christian - NOT EXACTLY, she does her daily Salat prayers at 5am according to her own interviews. Not to mention, Christianity wouldn't allow her to have been one of 14 wives to1 man. 

6.) My Name is African Swahili - NOT EXACTLY, your name is Arabic and 'Baraka' (from which Barack came) means 'blessed' in that language. Hussein is also Arabic and so is Obama. 

Barack Hussein Obama is not half black. He is the first Arab-American President, not the first black President. Barack Hussein Obama is 50% Caucasian from his mother's side and 43.75% Arabic and 6.25% African Negro from his father's side. While Barack Hussein Obama's father was from Kenya , his father's family was mainly Arabs.. Barack Hussein Obama's father was only 12.5% African Negro and 87.5% Arab (his father's birth certificate even states he's Arab, not African Negro). Go to:

  http://www.arcadeathome.com/archive.phtml?2008-03

7.) I Never Practiced Islam - NOT EXACTLY, you practiced it daily at school, where you were registered as a Muslim and kept that faith for 31 years, until your wife made you change, so you could run for office. 

4-3-08 Article 'Obama was 'quite religious in Islam''

  http://www.wnd.com/2008/04/60559/

  http://www.wnd.com/?fa=PAGE.view

8.) My School In Indonesia Was Christian - NOT EXACTLY, you were registered as Muslim there and got in trouble in Koranic Studies for making faces (check your own book). 

February 28, 2008. Kristoff from the New York Times: Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it'll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as 'one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.' This is just one example of what Pamela is talking about when she says 'Obama's narrative is being altered, enhanced and manipulated to whitewash troubling facts.' 

9.) I Was Fluent In Indonesian - NOT EXACTLY, not one teacher says you could speak the language. 

10.) Because I Lived In Indonesia , I Have More Foreign Experience - NOT EXACTLY, you were there from the ages of 6 to 10, and couldn't even speak the language. What did you learn except how to study the Koran and watch cartoons? 

11.) I Am Stronger On Foreign Affairs - NOT EXACTLY, except for Africa (surprise) and the Middle East (bigger surprise); you have never been anywhere else on the planet and thus have NO experience with our closest allies. 

12.) I Blame My Early Drug Use On Ethnic Confusion - NOT EXACTLY, you were quite content in high school to be Barry Obama, no mention of Kenya and no mention of struggle to identify - your classmates said you were just fine 

13.) An Ebony Article Moved Me To Run For Office - NOT EXACTLY, Ebony has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist. 

14.) A Life Magazine Article Changed My Outlook On Life - NOT EXACTLY, Life has yet to find the article you mention in your book. It doesn't, and never did, exist. 

15.) I Won't Run On A National Ticket In '08 - NOT EXACTLY, despite saying, live on TV, which you would not have enough experience by then, and you are all about having experience first. 

16.) Voting 'Present' is Common In Illinois Senate - NOT EXACTLY, they are common for YOU, but not many others have 130 NO VOTES. 

17.) Oops, I Miss-voted - NOT EXACTLY, only when caught by church groups and Democrats, did you beg to change your misvote. 

18.) I Was A Professor Of Law - NOT EXACTLY; you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 

19.) I Was A Constitutional Lawyer - NOT EXACTLY, you were a senior lecturer ON LEAVE. 

20.) Without Me, There Would Be No Ethics Bill - NOT EXACTLY, you didn't write it, introduce it, change it or create it. 

21.) The Ethics Bill Was Hard To Pass - NOT EXACTLY, it took just 14 days from start to finish. 

22.) I Wrote A Tough Nuclear Bill - NOT EXACTLY, your bill was rejected by your own party for its pandering and lack of all regulation - mainly because of your Nuclear donor, Exelon, from which David Axelrod came. 

23.) I Have Released My State Records - NOT EXACTLY, state bills you sponsored or voted for have yet to be released, exposing all the special interests pork hidden within. 

24.) I Took On The Asbestos Altgeld Gardens Mess - NOT EXACTLY, you were part of a large group of people who remedied Altgeld Gardens . You failed to mention anyone else but yourself, in your books. 

25.) My Economics Bill Will Help America - NOT EXACTLY, your 111 economic policies were just combined into a proposal which lost 99-0, and even YOU voted against your own bill. 

26.) I Have Been A Bold Leader In Illinois - NOT EXACTLY, even your own supporters claim to have not seen BOLD action on your part. 

27.) I Passed 26 Of My Own Bills In One Year - NOT EXACTLY, they were not YOUR bills, but rather handed to you, after their creation by a fellow Senator, to assist you in a future bid for higher office. 

28.) No One on my campaign contacted Canada about NAFTA - NOT EXACTLY, the Canadian Government issued the names and a memo of the conversation your campaign had with them. 

29.) I Am Tough On Terrorism - NOT EXACTLY, you missed the Iran Resolution vote on terrorism and your good friend Ali Abunimah supports the destruction off Israel . 

30.) I Want All Votes To Count - NOT EXACTLY; you said let the delegates decide. 

31.) I Want Americans To Decide - NOT EXACTLY, you prefer caucuses that limit the vote, confuse the voters, force a public vote, and only operate during small windows of time. 

32.) I passed 900 Bills in the State Senate - NOT EXACTLY, you passed 26, most of which you didn't write yourself. 

33.) I Believe In Fairness, Not Tactics - NOT EXACTLY, you used tactics to eliminate Alice Palmer from running against you. 

34.) I Don't Take PAC Money - NOT EXACTLY, you take loads of it. 

35.) I don't Have Lobbyists - NOT EXACTLY, you have over 47 lobbyists, and counting. 

36.) My Campaign Had Nothing To Do With The 1984 Ad - NOT EXACTLY, your own campaign worker made the ad on his Apple in one afternoon. 

37.) I Have Always Been Against Iraq - NOT EXACTLY, you weren't in office to vote against it AND you have voted to fund it every single time. 

38.) I Have Always Supported Universal Health Care - NOT EXACTLY, your plan leaves us all to pay for the 15,000,000 who don't have to buy it. 

39.) My uncle liberated Auschwitz concentration camp - NOT EXACTLY, your mother had no brothers and the Russian army did the liberating. 

So, who EXACTLY is this Obama guy and what is he trying to sell us?! Please get to work now...not enough of your loved ones and friends know about this fraud.

Does this Muslim ever tell the truth?????

OCA Snubbed at Ft. Ross Celebration

FW: SECOND Informational Sharing: (From 'Monomakhos'): "OCA Snubbed at Ft. Ross Celebration?"

 Category: What is the KGB run MP up to now!? Is it deliberately trying to..insult and 

degrade the OCA, in favour of ROCOR/MP?...or what

Read both this article, and as many comments as you can.

Clearly, from what all I have read of this 200th. year, grand celebration, (mainly from SF ROCOR/MP 'Archb'. Kyrill-Dmitrieff's web) of  ROCOR/MP and the  MP's, .... of the original founding of Russian, Ft. Ross, California, (on the northern Californian coast), on tomorrow, August 25, 2012, the OCA is not being given any prominent a schedualed  con-celebratory position, though according to that 1970 'Autocephaly' granted it by the MP, it is THE primary/if not SOLE, canonical local-church, for all of North America (!)...or so it says in that 1970 Tomos of Autocephaly.

Fort Ross, was originally and still is, in North America!... and the legal property of the State of California, a 'historical monument'. No Orthodox jurisdiction has any 'rights' there, ( as does neither the Russian Federation government) unless the State of California allows them to enter it's premises and use it, such as for periodic religious services, etc. 

The flag of old Czarist-Russia, flies over the fort, every day, raised up by the Park Ranger, a State employee.

      http://www.monomakhos.com/ft-ross-is-rocor-the-inheritor-of-the-legacy/ 

BBC Interviews

FW: Informational Sharing: (From BBC): "Heart And Soul, Putin And the Patriarch"-Recorded 25 minute BBC Live-Interview, of various people, in Moscow

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00wc7h0

Comment: I have listened to this recent live-recorded interview of various important MP clergy, of some others who either defend or are critical of the patriarch, and/or Putin, or 'liberals' who defend the Punk band-rioters, etc.... i.e. a variety of opposing opinions (and by the way, the terms 'conservative' and 'liberal' have a very different meaning in Russia, than in the west here).

One must listen very carefully, to the pro-MP mouthpieces, as they tend to contradict themselves a lot, (which fact shouldn't surprise us!) and some utter some rather surprising words (such as regarding the love for Rock music of a sizable number of MP clergy!), etc..

All-in-all, even with a variety  of the honest  ignorances of certain basics of Russian Orthodoxy by this BBC reporter, this is an interesting 25 minute live interview of these various people in Moscow. (MP distortions/sophistries aside).  To gain knowledge from this interview, one must sift what one hears, with a critical sense. 

Church and Kremlin are Separate?

From Novosti: "Orthodox Church and Kremlin are Separate, Insists Patriarch" (!-?) 

http://en.rian.ru/russia/20120816/175251495.html

Well, this is more proof, that KGB/FSB agents do have a sense of humour.

Manton monastery travesty

Subject: Limited Sharing: Some Startling Information About the Manton, California OCA Monastery-founded by Met. Jonah-Paffhausen-

WHAT IS GOING ON!? ..this OCA Manton Monastery was spared from these recent terrible fires, but now, this!

 Comment:

 Is this?... modernist/ecumenist/'relevant', new-age? "Orthodox Monasticism"  via the OCA-Manton  mode???  It certainly seems so.  What a scandal!  Though, I cannot believe that everyone in the OCA, which has many basically-conservatively-oriented Orthodox believers, either knows of this Manton travesty, nor practices  themselves such unOrthodox and utterly bizarre and/or immoral, 'monastic' norms, as seems to be in current use, in the Manton, California, monastery founded by (former-OCA Metropolitan) Jonah.  And too, it is named after St. John Maximovitch!

Under the Title: The Fires of Manton:

scroll down to: 

"An Open Letter to the Orthodox Church in America"

from: Stepan Hatting, 'an Orthodox novitiate and former Summer Novice'-

(and referenced via http://www.pokrov.org in regards to defrocked-Archimandrite Michael Rymer, and his residence/position  at that OCA monastery, he now...under a new name.)

http://www.monomakhos.com/the-fires-of-manton/

Honeymoon is over

FW:Sharing: "HAPPY GRAM Honeymoon is over"  (American political humour – Obama is now the object of jokes!) –

Note: The very popular TV comedians here mentioned, are all prominent American late-night  TV show hosts, watched and respected and listened to by millions of Americans, every night, all of whom, not long ago, used to strongly defend President Barrack Hussein Obama, and cover up his multitudes of mistakes/flaws/lies.

Now, they have turned on him, as have many Americans who once voted for him. So now, many in this country are crying out: "But the emperor has no clothes!"

Finally!

Shared with me by a retired Orthodox priest: a fellow loyal American, and one who also doesn't want an America hating, Marxist, pro-Islamic president to rule over us.

In this November election we all need to VOTE THIS RASCAL OUT!...him and his Leftist

Democrat party!

http://tpartyus2010.ning.com/profiles/blogs/3180617:BlogPost:174681

HAPPYGRAM