Tuesday, April 5, 2016

American Orthodox Women Want to Participate in the Coming 'Pan-Orthodox Council'

For thought: From Portal-Credo.ru: (Worldly Orthodoxy): Prominent American Orthodox Women Want to Participate in the Coming 'Pan-Orthodox Council' in Crete, etc.

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Dan Everiss

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Tue, Apr 5, 2016 at 11:00 AM
My brief comment: Well, the issue of women 'participating more'...than they do already [and how could church life exist or even survive without our countless and often un-thanked devoted Orthodox women!, both lay-women and nuns and the wives of our married priests], is one set of issues and arguments....actually going on for centuries now.
Virtually no parish...or diocese either, or any church charity or missionary effort,  could exist without its women members. If the Orthodox Church's membership  were only composed of men, it would have never had a chance to survive  even at its early years.
But what I wonder about more, is regarding this coming catastrophy, this ecumenist organized robber council , this 'Pan-Orthodox Council' farce, to be held  in Crete soon: would women 'participating' in it, to any degree...insure.... a more traditionalist and more solidly an Orthodox  outcome? just because they are women? That in itself is an absurd assumption, if anyone may be thinking  it. Both men and women, these days, are either in the camp of the devout  and solidly patristically oriented Orthodox, or contrary-wise.... in the general grouping of the ecumenist/renovationist/apostasy camp.
Many, in truth, in these terrible end times, are conflicted and very confused, and they have their feet and personal loyalties in both camps, usually unknowingly. 
In our entire Orthodox history, many men...and women... have become martyrs, and great saints, ...and also many others, both men and women,  have become apostates, and infamous traitors. Some these days, indeed,...who consider themselves to be, Orthodox Christians,  are truly confused and ignorant of many doctrines of the Faith, [and often mislead by their modernist/ecumenist/Sergianist  clergy], and they hold-to,  personally,  to both traditional Orthodox views and practices... AND...also....to  modernist/ecumenist heresies. Sex does not matter in these issues, not at all. Both Adam ...and Eve...were in the Garden of Eden...and they were both ejected.
Just my input.
Rd. Daniel in Oregon
"God is not a respecter of persons".


 
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05 апреля 2016, 18:35 April 5, 2016, 18:35 Print

Известные православные женщины-богословы из США потребовали участия женщин во Всеправославном соборе

Prominent Orthodox women scholars from the United States demand  women's participation in the Pan-Orthodox Council



Известные православные женщины-богословы из США потребовали участия женщин во Всеправославном соборе, который пройдет в июне на Крите, сообщает 5 апреля

Prominent Orthodox women scholars from the United States demand  women's participation in the Pan-Orthodox Council, which will take place in June in Crete, according to April 5 Радио Ватикана Vatican Radio . .

Имеющие богословское образование и опыт церковной работы женщины, хотя и не смогут стать «матерями собора» с правом голоса, но должны иметь возможность принять участие в работе различных специализированных и совещательных комиссий.

 Having the theological education and church work experience of these women, although they can not be the "mothers of the council" with the right to vote, but simply that they should be able to participate in the various specialized and advisory commissions.

Пять известных в Северной Америке женщин-богословов, принадлежащих к православной диаспоре, заявили об этом от имени многочисленных коллег во всем мире.

Five well-known North American women theologians belonging to the Orthodox Diaspora, stated this on behalf of their many women colleagues around the world.

Они напомнили о богословской конференции, посвященной подготовке собора, которую провел в январе в Стамбуле Вселенский патриархат, и в которой приняло активное участие множество женщин.
 





They recalled the theological conference for the preparation of the council, which was held in January in Istanbul, by the Ecumenical Patriarchate, and in which many women took an active part.


Регламент предстоящего собора делает участие женщин вполне возможным, так как помимо 25 архиереев от каждой Церкви «мирового православия» предполагается присутствие еще и группы советников из 6 человек.

The regulations of the  upcoming council makes the participation of women  quite possible, because in addition to 25 bishops from each church, from  "World Orthodoxy", there is expected to be the presence of more  advisers, of a group of 6 people,[ from each local church?].

 Но в списках участников, которые до настоящего момента представили Церкви «мирового православия», нет ни одной женщины.

But on the already prepared list of participants, which until this time, have already been submitted to the Church i.e. of  "World Orthodoxy", there are no women.

Американские женщины-богословы призвали глав Церквей «мирового православия» назначить для участия в соборе побольше женщин.

American women theologians called upon the heads of the churches of "World Orthodoxy" to designate to participate in the council, more women. 

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